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Name: H898
Date: July 16, 2008 at 13:37:29 Pacific
Subject: check the boot sector
OS: XP PRO SP3
CPU/Ram: QUAD CORE 2.66/2GB Crutia
Model/Manufacturer: nonnw
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how do i perform a check disk on me pc but to only scan the boot sector as me pc seems to struggle in booting into windows i wana know if the boot sector has corrupted

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Response Number 1
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 16, 2008 at 13:57:13 Pacific
Subject: check the boot sector
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I can't understand your problem. It would help us if you would explain your problem clearer and more detailed with capitalization and punctuation.

However, if you're wanting to check your disk, just go to Start>Run, type cmd and press enter. In the black box that appears, type chkdsk /f and press enter.

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Response Number 2
Name: aegis
Date: July 16, 2008 at 14:41:42 Pacific
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Can you elaborate on "struggle in booting". There is no such thing as a boot sector. The boot code is scattered between the bios, the Master Boot record, the partition boot code, the boot files in the root directory and windows.


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Response Number 3
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 16, 2008 at 15:11:00 Pacific
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FYI, another name for the boot sector is the Master Boot Record or Volume Boot Record.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boot_s...

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Response Number 4
Name: wanderer
Date: July 16, 2008 at 15:31:02 Pacific
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Boot sector has been around since drives booted.

H898 you can't check the boot sector. You can refresh it by going into Recovery console and using the utility FIXMBR. You can refresh the volume pointer with FIXBOOT.

If you boot to the windows screen your master boot record is working fine.

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Response Number 5
Name: Intel 80486 (by meisinscotland)
Date: July 16, 2008 at 16:13:49 Pacific
Subject: check the boot sector
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There is no such thing as a boot
sector.

Lol.

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Response Number 6
Name: aegis
Date: July 16, 2008 at 16:17:43 Pacific
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The Master Boot Record is in the first cylinder of the hard drive. The 'Volume Boot Record' is in the active partition.

What I was trying to get across Intel 80486, is that there is no sector that is set aside for booting that can be checked. The boot is accomplished by code in several places as I stated in my first post.

Boot explained:
http://pcs.suite101.com/article.cfm...


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Response Number 7
Name: H898
Date: July 17, 2008 at 14:16:22 Pacific
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On occasions i will load my pc up as normal and for no unknown reason it will get me only as far as the windows Boot screen and the blue progress bar will just go on and on and on for 5 minutes and others it will just give me a black screen and not get as far as the boot screen

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Response Number 8
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 17, 2008 at 14:23:55 Pacific
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Your boot sector is fine. Does it do this in Safe Mode?

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Response Number 9
Name: H898
Date: July 20, 2008 at 07:54:18 Pacific
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i cannot get into safe mode i have the option to go to it along with several others i have tried to load via them but it will get so far and stop i have tried the recovery console on the XP CD but sometimes while loading various errors like the partmgr.sys is corrupted or setup could not load so and so file and after several tries when i get into the recovery console and select R all it does after that is say checking disk

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Response Number 10
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 20, 2008 at 10:12:42 Pacific
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I really think your hard disk has some bad sectors. Some newer BIOSes have hard disk diagnostic tests that you can run from the BIOS that work well at testing the hard drive. I don't remember exactly how to do it, and I don't know for sure if your BIOS supports it. You could browse around in the BIOS and see if you can find it.

If you can't find it, my next recommendation is to download the Ultimate Boot CD and run one of its many hard disk diagnostic programs. Burn it to a CD (using the Burn Disk Image option in your CD Burning program if you have one). Download the ZIP, EXE, or ISO file (your choice which one to download) (at the link below) and extract it. The following page has a guide on how to burn it to CD. I suggest that you use the guide.

http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/downl...

This page has many different mirrors on where to download from.

This is all I know to do at this time.

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Response Number 11
Name: H898
Date: July 21, 2008 at 05:21:04 Pacific
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I have a the asus P5NT Deluxe motherbaord i diddnt know that some bios'es could run those tests something tho i will try n get back to u on. i have the UBCD windows version and 3. something for dos as a last resort i would consider formatting. few other things i may try

my sata drive for windows is isntalled on D: the c: is occupied by my additional IDE Hard drive so i am going to try remove that ide drive see if its getting confused

try moving sata drive to another port or use a different sata cable

i may need a newer version of the UBCD

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Response Number 12
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 21, 2008 at 17:15:19 Pacific
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I looked at the manual for your motherboard and can't see that it supports the BIOS hard disk diagnostic test.

UBCD 4.1.1 is out, perhaps you can download and burn it.

Unplugging your IDE drive is a good idea.

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Response Number 13
Name: H898
Date: July 22, 2008 at 05:10:50 Pacific
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I had a go with the UBCD dos one it could not detect my hard drive(s) even tho it was recognsised in the bios and when i attempted the recovery console. so i had a go with the ubcd for windows got to access ntfs partitoon in dos and ran a check partition checked it ok then it started to tell me it was deleting an file in index file $0 at line 25 weather it was corrupt i have no idea but it said this 25 times so i exited that guessing it would go on on. turned off pc And i took out me IDE and re ran the recovery console on the xp cd and i got into it ok ran it put in fixmbr and ran a chkdisk after about 1hrs 30 mins i said it found some bad parts n repaired them on the partition thought brillinant then we i go re boot into windows NTLDR is missing i guess a format is the next answer?

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Response Number 14
Name: Intel 80486 (by meisinscotland)
Date: July 22, 2008 at 07:33:10 Pacific
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this thread fails.

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Response Number 15
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 22, 2008 at 13:43:54 Pacific
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"this thread fails."

Don't give up so soon, we're getting somewhere.

It took 1 hour, 30 minutes to scan 1 disk??? How big is the disk?

When you did FIXMBR, did you do FIXBOOT right after?

The way to fix the "NTLDR is missing" error is to either format and reinstall, or copy NTLDR, and NTDETECT.com from your XP CD to the C: drive/folder.

If you choose to format, DON'T use the quick format option. Do the full NTFS format. This may fix any potential filesystem errors.

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Response Number 16
Name: H898
Date: July 23, 2008 at 05:27:10 Pacific
Subject: check the boot sector
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the disk initially is 500GB but i have partitioned it to 2 250gb. i think i just did fixmbr. which would be less hassle to do. i have found an article on the microsoft site: how to trouble shoot the NTLDR is missing file in 2000 looking at the article it mentions copy drive:\i386\ntdetect.com i will have a go at that n see what results i get if it fixes it brill but after that i will format

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Response Number 17
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 23, 2008 at 10:04:22 Pacific
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1 hour, 30 minutes still seems long. I have a PC that has a 250GB drive in it. It just takes 5 minutes to scan the 120GB partition. I might be wrong, but I'm thinking it should take around 10 or 11 minutes in your case.

Anyway, keep us posted.

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Response Number 18
Name: H898
Date: July 23, 2008 at 11:54:48 Pacific
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well it worked i think cus it has let me back into windows i did the

copy e:\i386\ntldr D:\

asked me over write Y,N,A

selected A

copy e:\i386\NTDETECT.COM \d:\

asked me overwite Y ,N,A

Selected A

but i went to check the boot.ini

said to me : command is not recognised

its a mystery just hope this is not a fluke boot n ile have somet elese lost or missing

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Response Number 19
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 23, 2008 at 12:16:11 Pacific
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So you can get back into Windows now?

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Response Number 20
Name: H898
Date: July 24, 2008 at 05:30:49 Pacific
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Yea but i wanted to see why the boot.ini couldnt be recognoised had a look and something called winsafe put it as a .backup after the .ini file changed it to .ini restarted pc and i couldnt get back in someing about the windows command couldnt be recognised i ended up fresh full format n re install of windows

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Response Number 21
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 24, 2008 at 10:53:34 Pacific
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Great! So you're up and running good now?

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Response Number 22
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 24, 2008 at 21:03:57 Pacific
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Must be, the OP hasn't responded.

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Response Number 23
Name: H898
Date: July 25, 2008 at 05:33:13 Pacific
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never a dull moment with pcs there is always some new fault error or a freeze to fix suppose it all adds to the xperience

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Response Number 24
Name: Rayburn
Date: July 25, 2008 at 09:02:27 Pacific
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That's for sure. That's what makes PCs fun!

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