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Name: Trent M
Date: June 17, 2008 at 15:41:22 Pacific
Subject: AMD K6-2 Patch For Windows 95A
OS: Windows 95
CPU/Ram: AMD K6-2 450 Mhz / 128 MB
Model/Manufacturer: Compaq Presario CM0900
Comment:

I decided to resurect my old Compaq Presario, and formatted the hard drive to reinstall Windows 98 SE, forgetting that the DRIVER20.CAB file is corrupted. I have since installed Windows 95A. When I try to run Windows, I get the message: "Windows Protection Error - You Must Reboot your computer." Thats when I googled the problem (on another computer, of course) and found out that Windows 95 takes a crap on a computer with a CPU speed higher than 300 Mhz. My AMD K6-2 is clocked at 450 Mhz. I found a download for a K6-2 patch, but it only works on Windows 95 OSR 2, and there is no jumper on the Mobo to set the CPU (or is it the system bus?) to 100 Mhz.

Is there an AMD K6-2 patch for Windows 95A? Also, does anyone have a copy of DRIVER20.CAB for Windows 98 SE or know where I could get one? Thanks a lot!

-Trent

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 1
Name: T-R-A
Date: June 17, 2008 at 16:29:17 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

The Win95 patch was specifically for AMD machines 350MHz or over (Intels' weren't affected). It apparently affected all versions of Windows (95/A/B/C), but the patch addresses only 95B & C:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/192...

Which version of '98SE are you trying to install:

1. Floppy? (doubtful)
2. Upgrade
3. Full Install ("for computers without Windows")


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Response Number 2
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: June 17, 2008 at 17:18:41 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Send me a private message with your email address and I'll send the cab file. It'll be from an OEM cd and should work OK.


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Response Number 3
Name: Trent M
Date: June 18, 2008 at 05:57:00 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Thanks, DAVE, but I don't need it. My mothers computer also has Win 98 SE, and the file was sitting right on the hard disk. The compaq is up and running perfect now.

To T-R-A, thanks for your info. I guess it's a full install. When my father bought the Compaq a few years back, they left the windows setup files on the second partition for backup purposes. I burned them to a CD-R, and deleted them off the hard drive. I found out that DRIVER20.CAB corrupted during the burning when I tried to install Win 98SE in Microsoft Virtual PC. I later decided to take the hard drive (Quantum BigFoot TS 10 GB) out of the Compaq and put it in my newer computer. I formatted it with NTFS, then later decided to Reformat it with FAT32 and put it back in the Compaq. Thats when I remembered I had no copy of Windows 98, reformatted the hard drive using four 2 GB partitions of FAT16, and tried to install Windows 95, and the story continues from my first post.

Also, DAVE, for some reason MSN won't let me grab any attachments from emails unless they are pictures or sound files.

Thanks to both of you!

-Trent

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 4
Name: T-R-A
Date: June 18, 2008 at 21:02:00 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

>>>"Also, DAVE, for some reason MSN won't let me grab any attachments from emails unless they are pictures or sound files."<<<

Grab yourself a free Yahoo or GMail account. They're not so d*mn picky...


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Response Number 5
Name: Trent M
Date: June 19, 2008 at 06:54:09 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Thanks for the idea! I might make a GMail account...

DAVEINCAPS, there is something you can try to send me. I don't have DISCOVER.EXE (the Windows 98 tour). I'll try opening it, if you want to send it to trent0@msn.com. Thanks!

-Trent

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 6
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: June 19, 2008 at 11:43:53 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

I just sent it. You might want to edit out your email address so you don't get spammed.


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Response Number 7
Name: Trent M
Date: June 20, 2008 at 11:50:19 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Thanks, DAVE, this means a lot to me. When I unzipped DISCOVER.EXE and opened it, it said it can't find discover.exe. Would burning it to a cd and opening it from there work?

-Trent

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 8
Name: Trent M
Date: June 20, 2008 at 12:18:51 Pacific
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When I open TOUR.EXE (found in the Windows directory) it says that it can't find DISCOVER.EXE, and to check my CD player for the Windows 98 Install CD. It then says that Windows was installed from C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS. It wasn't, so I don't know why it's saying that. So far, i've tried opening DISCOVER from the following directories: (E: is my CD drive. D: is the extended partition on my HD)

C:\WINDOWS\DESKTOP\
C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\
C:\WINDOWS\OPTIONS\CABS\WIN98\TOUR\
E:\WIN98\TOUR\

I'll put it in my d: drive under WIN98\TOUR and see what happens. (I found on a website that DISCOVER is found in WIN98\TOUR\ on the Windows CD.

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 9
Name: Trent M
Date: June 20, 2008 at 12:31:23 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Just tried more directories. No dice:

D:\
D:\WIN98\
D:\WIN98\TOUR\

I also forgot to mention, I installed Windows 98 from D:\SETUP98

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: June 20, 2008 at 12:35:10 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Going back to your original post.... to install Win95, all you would have had to do was underclock the CPU to 300MHz or less. If there are no jumpers or DIP switches on the board, the settings are most likely in the BIOS. You mentioned lowering the system bus to 100MHz? It's already at 100MHz. You'd either have to lower it to 66MHz or keep it at 100MHz & lower the CPU multiplier to 3x. After Win95 is successfully installed along with the K6-2 patch, then you can run the CPU at full speed again.

What's all the concern about the Win98 Tour?

"And that's the fishing line, because Sharkboy said so!"


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Response Number 11
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: June 20, 2008 at 12:39:03 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

I think you may need the entire TOUR folder in order for it to run properly. Discover.exe is probably just the command that gets things started.

Edit

Yeah, I just copied that folder to my hard drive and ran DISCOVER from there and it worked OK.


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Response Number 12
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: June 20, 2008 at 12:49:29 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

The TOUR folder is not going to be in the path so you need to either browse there and run discover.exe or preface the command with the path, such as:

D:\WIN98\TOUR\DISCOVER

(where D: is the drive with the tour directory.)

or:

D:\TOUR\DISCOVER

if you just copied the tour folder by itself to the hard drive as I did.


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Response Number 13
Name: Trent M
Date: June 21, 2008 at 06:49:39 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Umm... I never mentioned lowering the system bus to 100 Mhz. My mobo has jumpers to set the system bus (95 or 100 Mhz) and CPU multiplier. You are right, the sys' bus jumpers are set at 100 Mhz. Will it hurt the CPU if I set the multiplier lower or higher?

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 14
Name: jam
Date: June 21, 2008 at 19:17:33 Pacific
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"Umm... I never mentioned lowering the system bus to 100 Mhz"

Ummm, in the original post you wrote:

"I found a download for a K6-2 patch, but it only works on Windows 95 OSR 2, and there is no jumper on the Mobo to set the CPU (or is it the system bus?) to 100 Mhz."

I was just trying to clarify that the bus is already set at 100MHz.

"Will it hurt the CPU if I set the multiplier lower or higher?"

If you set it lower, the CPU will run slower. If you set it higher, you'll be overclocking the CPU & the system will probably fail to boot. You could try a combination of the two though...lower the multi to 4x & raise the bus to 112MHz. The CPU will still run at 450MHz, but you'll have the benefit of the faster system bus.


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Response Number 15
Name: Trent M
Date: June 22, 2008 at 05:45:18 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Oh, sorry about that!

I took a long look at the motherboard the other day:

There is jumpers for setting the system bus. The downfall: 95 Mhz or 100 Mhz.

There is jumpers to set the multiplier. I think the settings are 3.0x, 3.5x, 4.0x, 4.5, and 5.0x. I'll confirm that later when I look inside it again.

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 16
Name: Trent M
Date: June 22, 2008 at 07:33:22 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Just checked the mobo, the settings are:

3.5x, 4.0x, 4.5x, 5.0x, 5.5x

Darn! Even if I set the system bus to 95 Mhz and the multiplier to 3.5x, it's still too high for Windows 95 to run. Oh well....

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 17
Name: jam
Date: June 30, 2008 at 10:59:20 Pacific
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"Darn! Even if I set the system bus to 95 Mhz and the multiplier to 3.5x, it's still too high for Windows 95 to run"

I know this thread is old, but there *should* be a 3.0x multi setting even though it's not listed...it may be "undocumented" in which case, google may be able to find it for you. But you'd have to know the make/model of the board or at least the make/model of the system it came out of. Judging from your other posts, all you know for sure is it's a Compaq socket 7 board based on an SiS530 chipset but apparently it's been swapped into a different Compaq case?


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Response Number 18
Name: ERPMan0
Date: July 14, 2008 at 16:04:40 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

I suggest you upgrade to Win95B or Win95C. Win95A is too slow & weak to work with AMD K6-2 and other fast CPUs and doesn't support FAT32 partitions & DMA hard drive transfers which improve performance.

Google around to find the Win95 OSR2 faq and use the tips in the osr2 faq to upgrade from Win95a to either Win95b or Win95c


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Response Number 19
Name: Trent M
Date: July 15, 2008 at 13:39:33 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

I never knew there was a Windows 95C.

I've googled everywhere for Windows 95 OSR2, but never found anything, torrents or the like.

I recently found a combo on the three CPU multiplier jumpers that give me 3.0x, and another that gives me 2.5x, so I could install Windows 95 without any patches, anyway.

I've quit bothering looking for Windows 95 OSR2 now anyway-i'm switching to Linux. (Of which I have a question about on the linux forum.)

There hasn't been any replies on this thread for 2+ weeks-I was surprised to find another reply. Thanks again.

-Trent

Windows XP Media Center Edition 2002

AMD Sempron 2500+ @ 1.74 Ghz

512 MB RAM


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Response Number 20
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: July 15, 2008 at 14:32:11 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

95C is OSR 2.5. Here's the various version of 95 and how to ID them:

http://www.emsps.com/oldtools/mswin...


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