Hi.
Help is appreciated.
I own an "old" IBM Thnkpad i1400, 2611-412, that used to run win98.
I did complete hard drive format, and updated the BIOS.
I have both the recovery CD and Boot Floppy, but cant proceed.
When running the Boot floppy I get the following message:
"
OTI 91X ATAPI CD ROM
Device drivers not Found for 'MSCD001'
No valid CDROM device drivers selected.
"

Therefore I cant proceed as the CD rom is not recognized.

Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated

If you can boot from the cdrom and the recovery disk is bootable then that would be the way to go. Look in cmos/bios setup and see if you can set the cdrom as the first boot device. Then try booting from the recovery cd.

If you can't do that then first of all we'd need to know if that's one of those laptops with the swappable floppy/cdrom where you can have either the floppy or cdrom installed but not both. If so that's why the driver isn't finding the cdrom. In that case you basically make the hard drive bootable with the bootdisk and setup a config.sys and autoexec.bat files on it that will recognize the cdrom. Then swap in the cdrom and bootup the laptop. The cdrom drivers load and you can run the recovery.

If that's not the case and you have both floppy and cdrom installed then either the driver is incompatible with the cdrom or the cdrom is bad or it's disabled in cmos/bios setup.

Here's the download and drivers page for that model:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/s...

However, I didn't see any cdrom drivers there. There's also a link to manuals on that page if you don't have it already. Have a look there and post back here with additional info if necessary.

Thanks.
It is a model with both Floppy and CD ROM installed in it (non-removable).

Like you I cant find the drivers for the CD rom. I think this is where my problems lies, or maybe the firmware.

I did download, the firmware update from Lenovo, and all it said was that Firmware was up to date.

Another Q. Besides F1, i there another way to enter the CMOS/BIOS setup ?

Regards

... found driver here:

http://members.driverguide.com/driv...

... no need to register, when page loads click onto "cd_oak2.sys"

... check... "Download this file by viewing a series of ads"

*******************
... edit boot floppy config.sys to:

REM DEVICE=OAKCDROM.SYS /D:mscd001
DEVICE=cd_oak2.sys /D:mscd001

******************

... any probs keep us posted

Grrrr
wat do I know?
... got brain freeze

... and

... copy "cd_oak2.sys" to floppy

... ok ya

Grrrr
wat do I know?
... got brain freeze

Thanks.
No go.
I think I might have screwed it up, when doing the firmware upgrade i got from the Lenovo site.
The firmware is BC30A82F
Now the CD door wont even open!

And the boot disk, (now with the correct drivers) says
"
Device not found
"

Is there a way to revert this sumb change.

sorry and thanks

If the firmware upgrade copied the old version to the floppy disk you could probably reinstall it.

As far as you know is that the original cdrom? I think the specs show it as a 24x which should be new enough to accept the generic oak driver. Was the cdrom previously working OK? And did you check to see if you can boot from it?

I think F1 is the only key to get into cmos. I can remember having a problem with some IBM's in that it seemed to ignore the key. In that case changing the hardware--something simple like disconnecting a mouse--would force the bios to see the change and then offer to enter setup.

It is the original drive, and at least it used to spin when a CD was popped in it, up until this morning when I upgraded the firmware.

Will try to search for original firmware.

Now it wont even spin, the OS wont recognize the drive, in fact it wont even open when the bleu button is pushed.

Again thanks, you guys have been a lot of help, owe each a round of cold ones

I know where I messed up, the firmware I installed, was for Win 2000, mthinkpad 1400 models. This was win 98...hmm, now how do I go back...can't concentrate..thinking of buffalo wings and beer

No go, with the Lenovo downloads page, as the Firmware available is from 2004, and the one that made my CD-ROM stop working

Check the floppy disk you used to do the upgrade. See if there's an additional file there. If so it may be the original firmware.

Also check the cdrom manufacturer's site for firmware software.

About to give up, can't find the original firmware.

Q. If I do find it, how do I go abt. installing it.

Million thanks!

I'd have to take a look at the download you first used but I'd think you could specify the file to use in the upgrade. If not that then you could rename the old file the same as the new one and it should install that way.

I'll download it and have a look. I assume it's the fifth download on the lenovo page.

..." jeffporfirio "

... can you plz post the contents of your "autoexec.bat and config.sys" files from the floppy here so we can have a "butcher's hook" (look) ... thx

http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/l...

... ok ya!

Grrrr
wat do I know?
... got brain freeze

Thanks guys.
The firmware update that screwed up my drive is from here:

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/s...

By flashing the drive with the update I basically killed it.

My AUTOEXEC from the boot disk I am using looks as follows:

@ECHO OFF
set EXPAND=YES
SET DIRCMD=/O:N
set LglDrv=27 * 26 Z 25 Y 24 X 23 W 22 V 21 U 20 T 19 S 18 R 17 Q 16 P 15
set LglDrv=%LglDrv% O 14 N 13 M 12 L 11 K 10 J 9 I 8 H 7 G 6 F 5 E 4 D 3 C
cls
call setramd.bat %LglDrv%
set temp=c:\
set tmp=c:\
path=%RAMD%:\;a:\;%CDROM%:\
copy command.com %RAMD%:\ > NUL
set comspec=%RAMD%:\command.com
copy extract.exe %RAMD%:\ > NUL
copy readme.txt %RAMD%:\ > NUL

:ERROR
IF EXIST ebd.cab GOTO EXT
echo Please insert Windows 98 Startup Disk 2
echo.
pause
GOTO ERROR

:EXT
%RAMD%:\extract /y /e /l %RAMD%: ebd.cab > NUL
echo The diagnostic tools were successfully loaded to drive %RAMD%.
echo.

IF "%config%"=="NOCD" GOTO QUIT
IF "%config%"=="HELP" GOTO HELP
LH %ramd%:\MSCDEX.EXE /D:mscd001 /L:%CDROM%
echo.
GOTO QUIT

:HELP
cls
call help.bat
echo Your computer will now restart and the startup menu will appear.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
echo.
restart.com
GOTO QUIT

:QUIT
echo To get help, type HELP and press ENTER.
echo.
rem clean up environment variables
set CDROM=
set LglDrv=

The CONFIG.SYS looks as follows:

[menu]
menuitem=CD, Start computer with CD-ROM support.
menuitem=NOCD, Start computer without CD-ROM support.
menuitem=HELP, View the Help file.
menudefault=CD,30
menucolor=7,0

[CD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off
REM DEVICE=OAKCDROM.SYS /D:mscd001
device=cd_oak2.sys /D:mscd001
device=btdosm.sys
device=flashpt.sys
device=btcdrom.sys /D:mscd001
device=aspi2dos.sys
device=aspi8dos.sys
device=aspi4dos.sys
device=aspi8u2.sys
device=aspicd.sys /D:mscd001

[NOCD]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[HELP]
device=himem.sys /testmem:off

[COMMON]
files=10
buffers=10
dos=high,umb
stacks=9,256
devicehigh=ramdrive.sys /E 2048
lastdrive=z

There are 18 files on the disk besides the hidden system files. There are 3 bin files which I think are the upgrades for the various cdroms that came with the thinkpad models. Check your disk to see if it shows the same.

The download creates it's own system files and looks to be PCdos. So windows 2000 has nothing to do with it.

There are three firmware versions. The download files to install them are:

FWCD2001.EXE
FWCD2101.EXE
FWCD2201.EXE

The most recent, fwcd2201, is the one you used. The others are no longer available for download on IBM's ftp site. At least they're no longer where they used to be.

I couldn't find any download links for the first 2 except IBM's site and those were dead links. If they're out there anywhere available for download they'll be hard to find. You might check driverguide.com but usually their files show in a google search.

It'd probably be best to attempt the the upgrade again. Reformat the floppy disk and re-extract the download.

You're not using that bootdisk with the firmware upgrade are you? The firmware disk is bootable so it's all you need to do the upgrade.

No, Im not using the firmware disk, as I ruined the CD rom with it, wil try to look for the older versions..thanks..

The older versions will be the first 2 files I listed and that's what you'd search for.

I'm saying you should try the firmware upgrade again with fwcd2201. You're not going to make anything worse and it's possible the upgrade is OK but something happened during the upgrade process that left the cdrom useless.

Just make sure you boot from the upgrade disk and not the 98 bootdisk.

If you get the firmware issue settled I'll send you a better 98 bootdisk.

... ya I can see you're a tryer

... always read the 'guf@' b4 install

... I do'nt mean to embarrass, just showing were yer @ jeffporfirio

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php...

... best of luck

Grrrr
wat do I know?
... got brain freeze

re-downloaded the firmware update from the Lenovo site, but no go.

Will keep trying to find the older firmware, thanks for the help and the offer for the 98 Bootdisk.

... no go as "OTI 91X ATAPI CD ROM" is NOT listed!

ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/fwcd2201.txt

http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/s...

Grrrr
wat do I know?
... got brain freeze

Took apart the drive, its dead, only the LED lights up constantly..maybe its time to throw in the towel

... whip out the CDROM find a cheopo second hand one, even though it say's "non-removable"... they all say that just to confuse you.

... it's all part of the learning curve.

... not to worry ... be happy

... ya ya

Grrrr
wat do I know?
... got brain freeze

The 'OTI 91X ATAPI CD ROM. . .' is not the cdrom model, it's what the generic oak driver displays on the screen when it loads (or attempts to load).

The firmware update should be compatible with the various cdroms that came with those laptops. Either the initial upgrade attempt went bad and the second couldn't resuscitate it or there was a problem with the cdrom originally.

As already mentioned, try finding a second-hand replacement. Ebay would be a good start.